Pellowah & Umana Energy Healing | Charles Lowres, Amanti Moon

The Energetic Washing Machine: Charles Lowres on Pellowah, Umana and Why Healing Only Works If You Meet It Halfway

Picture a man circling a healing table in total silence for nearly an hour. No music. No incense — he can't even wear aftershave. No talking, which for Charles is the hardest part of all, because the man loves to talk. He's pulling something down out of the air and throwing it, over and over, and if you filmed it you'd wonder what on earth was going on in that room.

That's Pellowah. And the people who lie on that table have walked out and quit jobs, left relationships, or moved interstate within a fortnight.

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What Pellowah Actually Is

Charles Lowres of Amanti Moon is one of our favourite people, let alone our favourite guests, so having him back on #creativetalk was a joy. He came to talk about two modalities most people have never heard of — and the first, Pellowah, he describes as an angelic shift in consciousness. I think of it as an energetic washing machine. If you're carrying heavy, dense, stagnant energy — little hitchhikers, past lives, the stuck stuff that wants to leave — Pellowah cleans it out.

What I loved is his honesty: he's certified to the highest level, level three, and he still says he doesn't fully understand the mechanics. He doesn't need to. He trusts the process. He'll spend an hour beforehand switching off every crystal, every statue, every symbol in his healing room so nothing influences the work, then he'll ask you to do him one favour — go to sleep. Because when you sleep, the energy goes deeper. He stays in motion the whole 45 to 50 minutes, leaves you to integrate for five, and then the Pellowah keeps working for another two weeks. It's one of his "Rolls-Royce" treatments, and he never starts a newcomer there — he eases them in with something gentler first, what he jokingly calls the Hyundai before the Rolls-Royce.

Umana, and the Energy That "Didn't Exist" Until 2024

The second modality, Umana, is the opposite in feel. He's allowed music and candles, but still can't talk. Where Pellowah is hands-off, Umana is a touch technique — five meridians on the front of the body, five on the back, and the head — and it works with chakras eight through twelve. If Pellowah is the energetic washing machine that confronts you and forces change, Umana is softer: it connects you to the part of yourself that lives beyond this 3D realm, the version of you that doesn't know anxiety or self-doubt, and brings that confidence back into the body. People have booked it before job interviews and walked in different.

Here's the part that'll either intrigue you or lose you completely: Charles says Umana only came into being in 2024, because the consciousness of the planet had to reach a certain level before the energy could be channelled here at all. Whether that lands for you or not, it fits something Kebrasca and I keep circling back to on this show — that the tools are arriving as fast as we're ready for them.

Why Healing Only Works If You Meet It Halfway

If there's one thing to take from Charles, it's this: the biggest misconception about energy healing is that you can lie there and let it all just happen to you. You can't. He's set an intention not to work with people who won't work on themselves. He's a conduit, not a magician — he holds the space, your ancestors and the angelic realm come in to guide it, but you do the healing. He gives homework, and if you won't do it, there's only so far he can take you.

And this is why he lights up when a client cries on the table. To Charles, tears mean the truth is finally surfacing. He'll gently poke with a question — how did that feel? why do you think you chose that? — because, in his framework, we choose our experiences before we're born, and asking "why would I want that?" cracks something open. The moment the perception shifts, the shame loses its power and it's gone. It's the same thing Dolores Cannon taught about QHHT — that the real healing happens in the talking before the hypnosis, the moment you give a feeling a voice and release it instead of holding it in. The session is just the icing.

Protecting Your Energy Body

We talked about something every practitioner learns the hard way — you have to protect your energy. We tend our physical bodies and go to the doctor when something's wrong, but we ignore the energetic body entirely, even though that's where so much actually sits. When you drop into fear, worry, or your lowest point, your vibration drops and, as Charles puts it, cracks can open for things to attach. His protection is gloriously physical: 25 kilograms of selenite under his healing table, six more in the corner, rods and swords of it on top, a selenite lamp at home, and sage, always sage. He even wears an Isua stone bracelet from Greenland. But the simplest protection of all? Joy. Keep your vibration high with fun and love and you're already most of the way there.

And for the sceptics — including the Kiwis and Aussies who find all this borderline crazy talk — he has the analogy that disarms everyone. You already have something in your home that runs on invisible energy and you trust it completely: your Wi-Fi router. You can't see what comes out of it, but you believe it absolutely, because it brings magic to your screen. Energy healing is the same; he just connects to the source instead of the wall. And if even that feels like a stretch, his cheapest prescription is to take your shoes and socks off and go stand on the grass. People come to him anxious and overthinking, and half the time it's because they've forgotten to touch the earth.

A Man in a Woman's World

One thing stayed with me, because Kebrasca lives it too. The spiritual world is dominated by women, and Charles has felt that keenly — sit a male tarot reader and a female one side by side at a healing centre and she'll get ten clients to his one. It's the mirror image of the corporate world he came from, where being a man opened doors. There's a nurturing feminine trust that men have to work twice as hard to earn in this space. He's not bitter about it — he feels for men, who've carried the provider's armour for so long that many have lost their voice entirely — and he wants to build places where men feel safe enough to be vulnerable. That's a thread we'll keep pulling on this show.

Charles is heading to Egypt, South America, the UK and one day Siberia, teaching tarot and Pellowah in tiny groups, recommending strange out-of-print books, and showing up every single day with one tarot card and his whole heart. Some guests share a technique. Charles reminds you the magic was never the point — the connection was.

— Amber

In This Episode

• 0:00 Intro
• 2:47 Welcome back, Charles
• 4:13 Thank you: 300 subscribers
• 6:43 Mind Body Spirit Festival, Melbourne
• 10:38 Introducing Charles Lowres (Amanti Moon)
• 10:58 Charles's daily tarot read: King of Swords
• 15:20 What is Pellowah?
• 16:19 Pellowah: the energetic washing machine
• 17:46 Why he wants clients to fall asleep
• 18:43 What Pellowah shifts: jobs, moves, relationships
• 19:42 What is Umana?
• 20:28 Umana and chakras 8 to 12
• 21:42 Pellowah vs Umana: which do you need?
• 22:22 Why Umana only came into being in 2024
• 23:33 A client's joint pain clears after one session
• 25:50 The biggest misconception about energy healing
• 26:30 You have to want it: the client's role
• 28:12 Why tears in a session are a good sign
• 30:49 How Charles picks the right modality
• 33:05 Is humanity going through a consciousness shift?
• 35:28 Client story: breast cancer and divine timing
• 38:52 Why the talking before hypnosis IS the healing
• 40:00 Are women more open than men?
• 45:47 From corporate life to spiritual healing
• 49:12 Being a male healer in a female-dominated world
• 57:05 Why your energy body needs protection
• 59:42 25 kilograms of selenite under the table
• 1:01:27 The simplest grounding practice
• 1:03:49 The Wi-Fi router analogy for sceptics
• 1:09:10 Marketing tips for healing practitioners
• 1:18:22 Egypt, South America, the UK & Siberia
• 1:22:26 Two books every practitioner should read
• 1:25:39 Where to find Charles

Find Charles at amantimoon.com.au and follow Amanti Moon on TikTok, Instagram and Facebook for his daily tarot reads.

Book a reading with Amber at glowbyamber.com or explore Kebrasca's healing work at kebrascaking.com

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Lightly edited for readability. #creativetalk with Amber & Kebrasca King, featuring energy healer Charles Lowres of Amanti Moon.

[02:47] Welcome back, Charles

Welcome back to #creativetalk, where we blend consciousness and commerce. I'm Kebrasca King and I'm Amber King, and today we have one of our favourite guests and favourite people — Charles is back to share another modality he specialises in, called Pellowah, and another called Umana. We're hugely excited to get into how they help people heal, all the benefits, all the tea.

[04:13] Thank you — 300 subscribers

It's been a busy year already — we've had Kate Hammond, an energy healer who makes beautiful healing sprays, and Joelle, who shared past life regression through her modality, Aquarian healing. And we've reached 300 subscribers on YouTube in just a couple of weeks — thank you all so much for tuning in, watching, sharing and joining our lives so we can get these modalities and these amazing people out to the world.

[06:43] Mind Body Spirit Festival, Melbourne

The Mind Body Spirit Festival returns to Melbourne over the King's Birthday long weekend, and we'll both be in the psychic reading room — four days in a row for the first time. You can check it out at mbsfestival.com.au and pre-book a slot; that room sells out every year. They're adding a whole healing hub this year too — funny, because we were saying two years ago they had a psychic room but no healing room.

[10:38] Introducing Charles

Tonight's guest, Charles, has an amazing TikTok page where he does a daily tarot read. Let's play today's. [Charles's read: the King of Swords — be the strategist, have the plan, stay grounded and steadfast, be clear about what you want and don't deviate.] Such a great reading — he breaks the single card right down to the colours and what the figure's holding. His page is Amanti Moon on TikTok, Facebook and Instagram. Charles, thank you for coming back. (I've been really well — thank you for having me back; I thought after last time that would be it!) No way — you're one of our regulars now.

[14:02] The pull of TikTok

TikTok was something I resisted for ages, but it has quicker growth than Instagram, Facebook or YouTube, and a broadening demographic. I took the leap and went from zero to 1,100 followers very quickly, and did my first live last week — thank you for that. My daily tarot reads are a little gift to my customers who are energetically aware but might not know why they're feeling a certain way; it gives them clarity. Even if it's just: it's going to be a rough day, buckle up, enjoy the ride.

[15:20] What is Pellowah?

Last time we talked QHHT and Dolores Cannon; tonight we're going deeper into Pellowah and Umana. I'll do my best to explain — it's different energy for everybody. Pellowah means "angelic shift in consciousness." It's a very strong energy, so I'd never recommend it to someone who's never had an energy healing; I'll offer them something softer first.

[16:19] The energetic washing machine

Pellowah wants to create change if you're stuck. It's a really good energetic washing machine — if you've got heavy or dense energy attached, from little hitchhikers to past lives to stagnant stuck energy, Pellowah cleans it up. I'm trained and certified to level three, the highest, and I'll be transparent: I don't fully understand it, but I trust it. That's the key — I trust the process; I don't need to understand the mechanics.

[17:05] The purest space

There's no talking, which is hard for me because I love a chat. No music, no sounds, no smells — I can't even wear aftershave or burn incense. I'll go into my healing room an hour before and turn off the crystal energy, the symbology, the statues — anything that could influence the Pellowah — so the person on the table goes on their own journey. I'll tell them: you might see things, give it reference and let it go. "I'm on the beach" — let it go. "Red car" — let it go, because it might mean something to you on the journey.

[17:46] Go to sleep

I actually encourage my clients to go to sleep. Please, do me a favour and go to sleep — because then the Pellowah goes really deeply. If you're ready for big changes, let the energy go deep. It's the weirdest thing I do — the customer's on the table and I'm running around it for the full 45 to 50 minutes, pulling stuff in from the sky and throwing it. If anyone filmed me they'd ask what's going on in that room. Afterward I leave them five minutes to integrate, and the Pellowah keeps working for another two weeks.

[18:43] What Pellowah shifts

I've had people quit jobs, move interstate, leave relationships, find where they want to live. It's good if you feel stuck and don't know your next move, or if you feel heavy all the time and might have something attached. It's one of my Rolls-Royce treatments — I've got three now. I always start someone with a Hyundai, nobody's had energy work, then build them up to the Rolls-Royce, because it can really change your life if you're ready and willing. Come with an intention. If you just want to try it, don't expect too much. If you come wanting to change your life, get ready.

[19:42] What is Umana?

Umana is different — I'm allowed music and candles, but I still can't talk, which kills me. Pellowah is non-touch; Umana is a touch technique. There are five meridians on the front of the body and the head, then halfway through you roll over and there are five on the back. Umana pushes you into higher levels of who you are — it plays with chakras 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12.

[20:28] Chakras 8 to 12

Think of it this way: this is me in the earth realm, but there's a part of me in the universe. Umana connects you more with that universal part of yourself, so you feel more expansive — it's like engineering for a higher level of consciousness. It's one of the only times in energy work when my mind is completely blank — no thought, just locking into the crown and finding the next meridian every few minutes.

[21:06] Umana's results

I've only practised since November 2025, and everyone who's had an Umana has booked another, because they feel expansive — they feel their anxiety release, their lack of trust and lack of worth release. People have come before job interviews and then got the job. Very different tools for very different needs.

[21:42] Pellowah vs Umana

Umana is softer; Pellowah can be harsh and brash, but sometimes it needs to be — "I'm going to kick your ass, now, let's go" — whereas Umana works over time.

[22:22] Why Umana only came into being in 2024

The interesting thing is Umana only came into being in 2024, because the consciousness of the planet had to reach a certain level before the energy could be enabled here. So it's relatively new; a lot of people haven't heard of it, but spiritually aware people really resonate with it.

[23:33] A client's joint pain clears

I had a beautiful soul, about 65, come for a Pellowah — all her joints ached. We'd been doing clairvoyant healing, then she wanted to try something different. The next morning she wrote: I feel energised, I feel safe, no pain in my joints, I just want to get up and get on with life. When I studied Pellowah, day two introduced symbols like Reiki and the blood drained from my face — but you draw them once correctly and they sit in your auric field forever.

[25:09] Clearing old patterns

It's about shifting old patterns, programs and beliefs we don't even know are there — the "you're not good enough" we were told as kids. It clears the slate so you can start on a higher level. Life's getting faster, and we've got to keep up. (I thought that was just old age!)

[25:50] The biggest misconception

The biggest misconception is: I'll go and have an energy healing, lie there, and everything will just happen for me. No. You've got to want it, work at it, enable it. I've set an intention not to work with clients who won't work on themselves. If you're prepared to do the change, I'm prepared to help. With a clairvoyant healing I give homework — and if you won't do it, I can't help you further.

[26:30] You have to want it

We hold so much space, but as energy healers we're the conduit — the client does the healing. We're not putting a band-aid on it and handing you a pill. That's why some people avoid healers: they're told they're part of the process, that 20 years of patterns won't be fixed in one go.

[28:12] Why tears are a good sign

I love it when clients cry on the table — good, what's making you feel that way? Let's crack it open. Once we build trust, they verbalise the thing that's held them back, and I can show them a completely different perception. What was shame gets looked at differently — "I wasn't in the wrong, I don't have to hold that" — and the moment the perception shifts, it's gone. I'll ask, "Why did you choose that?" Because before you're born you choose the experiences you need this lifetime. That stops people: if I chose that, why would I want it? Energy healing isn't me fixing you — I'm not a magician — it's me helping you go deep and find the root cause. Once we get there, it's released. The room is safe, your ancestors and archangels come in to guide it, and I'm getting information — ask about age 12, ask this, ask that.

[30:49] Picking the right modality

How do I decide which modality? Everyone's at a different level. If I've never met you, I'll recommend a clairvoyant healing first — balancing the chakras, reading what's going on — then I get guidance on where to go. For people with prior experience, they'll message me through the website and I'll ask: what are you going through, what do you want to shift? My mentor said, "Charles, you've got ten fingers — learn ten things," so I keep a toolbox, because Reiki might be great for a first session but later they're beyond it.

[33:05] A consciousness shift, or a trend?

Two aspects. A big proportion of humanity is waking up, and that shift is what allowed something like Umana to be channelled. There are also fads — I won't debunk them, but I see them come and go. A fad might still serve a purpose if it exposes someone to something different and becomes a catalyst to try something bigger — hypnosis, energy, cards, numerology, astrology. The consciousness is rising because people are questioning the old ways more and more.

[35:28] Breast cancer and divine timing

I had a client booked in who had to cancel and rebook four weeks later. She came in, lay on the table, and said, "You won't believe what happened today — I went to the doctor and was diagnosed with breast cancer." I said, "There you go — that's the universe saying I couldn't do it four weeks ago, because Charles is going to help me today." She trusted me enough to say those words. I told her: now you've said it, we're not going to own that, but we're going to work a way around it. I channelled things for her — use this crystal, put it in your bra — and four weeks later it had already dropped in size. I'm not saying that's the case for everybody, but people are open and they want the help. I had a man who'd had a stroke and never got the feeling back in his left arm; in hypnosis it came up that it connected to his heart. "Your heart needs to open, my friend, and then the left arm will open." He got it, and he cried — I love it when they cry, because that's the truth coming out.

[38:07] The first time we met Charles

(Amber:) I remember meeting you at Crystal Universe — you had such amazing energy, taking us around, sharing knowledge about crystals, and we just kept going back. That's why we trusted the feeling to have healings with you.

[38:52] The talking IS the healing

This is what Dolores Cannon believed — healing is mainly in the talking. When you give a feeling a voice — "I was this and it made me feel like this" — you've released it to the universe instead of holding it inside. She said the best part of a QHHT session is on the couch before you start, because you're freeing yourself of shame and guilt, and the hypnosis is just the icing that validates it. So in the healing room I'll poke with words — how do you feel, what does that mean to you — so they bring it out, and there's such freedom in that.

[40:00] Are women more open than men?

Yes. Women have their intuition — nine out of ten of my clients are women. I've seen an increase in male clients, and they tend to be very spiritually aware men, which is great. But the general male population still has its head in the sand. Men have always carried the pressure to be the masculine provider, and a lot of them have lost their voice. A great place to start is a massage — many massage therapists have energy flowing through their hands and can gently nudge. It's great that younger men are more open; I'm 55, and my generation was brought up not to show emotion.

[44:29] The flip side

(Kebrasca:) I live in this spiritual world too, and when I go to classes I'm often the only man. (Charles:) But how many women's-only circles are there that men aren't allowed into? There's a flip side to everything. In my head I've always wanted to do more for men, so they feel safe to be vulnerable, because in their lives they can't be — the pressure to provide is there. There's a lot of stigma for men to build that bravado wall young, and we bottle things up. (And then you add competitiveness, ego and the drive for flash things, and it becomes toxic masculinity rather than the connected, divine version that's also possible.)

[45:47] Corporate to spiritual

The biggest thing I learned in corporate was communication at different levels — am I talking to a child or a chief executive? — and reading energy very quickly: what's the vibe walking in, is it angry, happy, scared? That's what I brought into my spiritual work; communication is the key. What I miss is the social aspect of an office — but working from home lets me get creative with the TikTok videos, and I still connect when a "card of the day" message lands. Respect and integrity are things that, once you lose them, you never get back.

[48:15] Talking to nature

(Now you have water-cooler moments with your spirit guides!) I do it with nature — I talk to the birds on my walks and they don't fly away, I talk to the trees: what wisdom is blowing through your leaves today? I'll talk to a bigger consciousness.

[49:12] A man in a woman's world

The spiritual world is dominated by women, and being a man in it is hard. At a healing centre, if there was a woman tarot reader and me, she'd get ten clients and I'd get one. There's a feminine, nurturing energy that men aren't even looked at for. It's starting to change, but it's harder for us to build that initial trust — once you've got it, you keep it. It's the opposite of the corporate world, where I could do whatever and be done. Here I have to work twice as hard to be seen or heard. (A viewer, Jan, had a wonderful Umana session a couple of months ago — great to see the modality out there.)

[51:10] The daily tarot, and giving back

I teach tarot, usually July and August, and I'll run an energy-healing class too. When I started Amanti Moon, a wise soul told me: to get traction, give something to your clients. So for years I posted oracle cards every Tuesday and typed up the meanings by Thursday. This year the universe said: put your face on camera and bring out one card everyone wants to see. The response has been really popular — I get messages from all over the world (even America telling me I'm "on the wrong day" — no, you're in the past, I'm in your future!). It's an energetic exchange; every now and then the universe says "that person needs a free reading," and I reach out. I'm thinking of building it into a Patreon with a Sunday spread for the week ahead.

[54:12] Social media and spiritual hunger

I really do think people feel something's missing in such a materialistic world — a disconnect from what's important, which is people and connection. So the spiritual aspect is gaining momentum. Men on TikTok and Instagram are following me more because they can quietly watch and learn without anyone knowing. You see it going mainstream too — even The Devil Wears Prada 2 has tapping in it. The more we expose it, the more opportunities people get to find where they fit. And please — if you're posting and wondering whether anyone's there, my guidance is keep going; consistency is the key.

[57:05] Protecting your energy body

People believe in the physical body because they can see and touch it. But we also have energetic bodies, and things happen in the astral realms. I'm reading an amazing book by a psychologist who discovered through hypnosis that things can attach to us energetically — often at our lowest point, in fear or worry, when our vibration drops and creates cracks in the astral body. The easiest protection is joy, fun and love every day, to keep your vibration high. You can wear a crystal — this is Isua stone from Greenland, very high energy, connected to the earth. And understand: you go to the doctor for the physical body, but when something's obstructing your thoughts or feelings and it's not physical, it's energetic — go to an energetic specialist. How many times have you gone to the doctor with a pain and been told there's nothing there?

[59:42] 25 kilograms of selenite

In my healing room there's 25 kilos of selenite under the table, another six in the corner, and rods and swords of it on top — selenite is the most amazing protection stone, white and milky. Use a selenite lamp at home to keep the energy clear, and sage and smudge regularly, because energy comes to you — even as a negative thought or intention from someone else. Be mindful what you post on social media, because if people become envious they can send energy that brings you down. We put so much emphasis on the physical and forget the energetic and spiritual bodies — but look after them the same way and you have a far more balanced life.

[1:01:27] The simplest grounding practice

The easiest thing: take your socks and shoes off and go stand on the grass, or at the beach. People come to me anxious and overthinking, and it's because they wear shoes, their homes have carpet, and they're not connecting to the earth. Sit against a tree for half an hour and watch the world go by — the earth wants to take the heaviness from you and leave you uplifted. Little things like that can change your life. (A viewer notes it's hard to relate "energy" to ordinary Kiwis and Aussies — and it is; to us it's real because we work with it.) Standing in morning sunlight, putting your feet in ocean water — all of it has an energetic piece that helps your day.

[1:03:49] The Wi-Fi router analogy

Here's something for everyone at home: you've all got something you trust unconditionally that runs on invisible energy — your Wi-Fi router. Who can see the energy coming from it? Nobody. But you all believe it works and brings magic to your screen. So just understand you already give 100% trust to invisible energy. I connect to the source and to Mother Earth — it's not my energy — and when I'm connected, magic flows through these hands. It's like people saying "crystals are just rocks," when there are quartz crystals in watches and phones making them work. The struggle is that believing it means their belief system has to change — "what else do I believe that's now wrong?" — and they don't want to see that, so the head goes back in the sand. And that's fine; they're just not ready.

[1:06:00] Support without ego

We've lifted so many layers in our own lives by sharing on platforms, and that helps others ask the questions of themselves. The bare minimum is to support whoever it is, however it happens, without ego or expectation of getting something back. (Charles:) With energy work there's always an exchange — I give back to my clients in time, and the universe guides me to give free readings to people I sense are sad or struggling. That little ripple changes the person, then the family, then how they show up at work. I had a client message yesterday that her grandmother was in hospital; I tapped in — she's okay, this is a checkpoint for her — and that settled her.

[1:09:10] Marketing tips for practitioners

(As marketers, the hosts offered Charles a few tips.) The daily posts are already working — consistency feeds the algorithm. Go live at the same time every day so viewers have something to expect; the strong slots in our region are early morning, lunchtime, and evening. Record a Pellowah or a clairvoyant session (no need to give away the information) so people on the fence can see it looks safe, comfortable and welcoming — and capture the client's face at the end. Video testimonials are ten times more valuable than written ones now. Go live at your markets, and at your classes (with permission), with testimonials at the end. You're already 90% of the way there — it's just plugging in a few extra pieces.

[1:18:22] Egypt, South America, the UK & Siberia

I'm taking a tour group to Egypt in October — 12 nights — and I'm in pre-planning for South America, the UK and possibly Italy. And if anyone wants to travel to Siberia in Russia, let me know — it's a very spiritual part of the world for me, and there are parts of myself I need to reclaim there. I'll run tarot classes in July and August, and a seven-week clairvoyant class (two hours a week), possibly a Pellowah class too — I limit those to four people so it's practically one-on-one. This year I don't want to learn anything new; I want to bed down Umana and master it. I've done QHHT for ten years and clairvoyant healing for thirteen — even though it sounds simple, it's very powerful. (Classes are in Melbourne, at my home in Attwood, and I do one Saturday a month at Restoring Wellness, a yoga studio in Reservoir.)

[1:22:26] Two books

Two books I'd recommend if you do spiritual work. The first is The Unquiet Dead — a psychologist treats spiritual possession, published in 1987; she trusted herself enough to go into the metaphysical and even gives you the technique. The second is The Complete Dictionary of Ailments and Diseases by Jacques Martel — every illness in an emotional sense, every part of the body. When I read these to people they go, "Yeah, that's it." It's 600 pages of one man's life work; look around for a fair price. And if you don't want to see a healer, a spiritual book can still push your thinking in ways you've never considered.

[1:24:32] Closing

Thank you, Charles, for being so open about your work and sharing space with our growing community. (And thank you for the chance to reach your viewers — there's more out there than people realise.) We're doing a giveaway reading later in the month as a thank-you to our subscribers — there's a poll on our YouTube channel, so go and vote on what you'd like.

[1:25:39] Where to find Charles

You can find Charles at amantimoon.com.au — all his modalities, classes, overseas trips, Pellowah, Umana and more — and follow Amanti Moon on TikTok or Instagram for the daily readings. Next week we've got two very special guests joining us all the way from the UK — award-winning, extremely spiritual, and people we're fortunate to have worked with and learned from.

Thanks so much for tuning in to another week of #creativetalkpodcast — same time, Thursday.

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This article touches on childhood adversity and trauma. It's intended as general information about Pellowah, Umana, not therapeutic advice. If any of it brings up something heavy for you, please reach out to a qualified professional or someone you trust.